Hi Malcom, The link is broken.

Hmmm, may have just been down momentarily. I just connected successfully. Maybe give it another try?

Supporting Synaptics multi-touch pads would make a lot more sense too.

Yet the answer when it was suggested that it might be useful/cool/sensible to support that existing and very widespread technology is “Nah, we won’t”.

(in contrast to this rather clunky looking concept that is clearly a long way off ever being delivered)

I find that kinda weird.

I’m anticipating the reponse to be : “but these devices will be supported by the OS and not require us to do any additional work to support them ourselves”,

to which I shall pre-emptively respond: “Then why go to all the bother of implementing your own gesture engine if you’re only prepared to leverage OS support in this area?”

One position doesn’t make sense when stacked against the other.

And “natively” supporting Synaptics devices would be another HUGE differentiator/selling point for Delphi.

Donchyathink?

Oh, and yes, the link is broken. I’m guessing it was related to this one though:

http://www.popsci.com/gear-amp-gadgets/article/2009-10/microsoft-mouse-prototypes-tackle-multitouch-look-crazy

Hi Malcom, The lik is still broken. I’m getting an error 404 This page wasn’t found….

Hi Malcolm. The link is still broken.

Maybe the link changed? I found it under:

Maybe the link changed? I eventually found it here: http://tinyurl.com/yg8b8co

(http://www.popsci.com/gear-amp-gadgets/article/2009-10/microsoft-mouse-prototypes-tackle-multitouch-look-crazy)

I Confirm that the link is broken. And I don’t found the article on the website popsci.com

Doesn’t work

The link is working for some people, however for those who can’t see it, the video is also available here http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/07/microsoft-multitouch-mouse-prototypes-in-action-video/

Jolyon, I’m not actually sure whether to respond, as you seem to be getting along fine answering your own questions. I don’t want to interrupt your conversation 🙂

I don’t recall this discussion you had where it was stated we’re not interested in supporting some devices. Are you saying this was a discussion you had with me?

I do think, however, that maybe your response is a little out of proportion. All I was saying is that I thought some of these devices looked interesting. If you don’t agree, fine, no issue, but launching into an imaginary argument with me where you play my part too is more than a little weird.

And for the record, yes, I think supporting the Synaptics pads is an interesting idea. I’ll bring it up with Chris and see what he thinks.

@Jolyon -> I suspect that if you wait a bit, Synaptics will find a way to emulate the multi-touch signals in Win7 for their device.

Then the problem will be solved at the right level.

Or, if there is an Synaptics API, you could probably simulate the signals yourself.

Hi Malcolm,

It wasn’t a discussion with you, it was – iirc – an exchange with Chris (Bensen) in the comments on his blog at some point.

The argument wasn’t “imaginary”, and I didn’t mean to put words in your mouth, per se. I simply envisaged the same responses that I already received in that other discussion would be presented in this case too – it would be great if the responses were actually different, so please feel free to supplant the imaginary discussion with an *actual* one.

🙂

Actually, I think the issue with the link is because the final part has an apostrophe in it. Chrome seems to deal ok with it, but I’ve just tried it in IE and it barfed.

When you click on the link and it fails, if the last portion of the URL looks like this:

2009-10/microsoft-multitouch-mice-demo’d

try replacing it with this:

2009-10/microsoft-multitouch-mice-demo%E2%80%99d

Jolyon,

>> it would be great if the responses were actually different,
>> so please feel free to supplant the imaginary discussion
>> with an *actual* one.

Well, my responses have already been different. I initiated a discussion with Chris shortly after I posted it, and he’s already responded with an encouraging answer (note that doesn’t mean we’re doing it, but it was far from “we’re not interested”). I planned on logging it into QC on Monday, I’ll forward you the case number so you can vote on it as well if you like.

As for an “actual* discussion, I’m always happy to, but it does become a little tiresome when it feels like you’ve already decided the direction the discussion is going to go. But if you’re willing to actually let me respond before putting forward a counter argument, then I’d love to. I’ve said before that I think you have many good ideas, and you are clearly a bright guy, just sometimes I find your ideas are wrapped up in such a prickly wrapper they can be hard to get to.

BTW, Will you be at the event on Tuesday?

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